tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post984960284035814583..comments2023-04-23T12:45:31.897+12:00Comments on Chaos Marxism: Chaos Marxist AphorismsDoloras LaPichohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15406903235156602127noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-27918514937524968102009-09-07T07:58:45.823+12:002009-09-07T07:58:45.823+12:00Oh, don't worry, man, I agree with on clean dr...Oh, don't worry, man, I agree with on clean drinking water, comfy living arrangements, and broadband internet access - for everyone on the planet. Marxists are not primitivists - we LIKE a globalized high-tech society, we just feel that capitalism's going to wreck it within forty years top if we don't stop it.<br /><br />What alternative model? Well, one problem is that we're not elitists - the new economy is going to be built by ordinary workers and peasants from the ground up, no matter what master plan clever intellectuals come up with, so any plan we come up with can only be a tentative suggestion at this stage. However, here's a very good suggestion - Michael Albert's <a href="http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=lFjSE4rRRRUC&dq=parecon+albert&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=AmQlGi2DZ_&sig=u2U0dEegfA_BKqOp95j6Bv00t2s&hl=en&ei=ORSkSqn1C4LssQO0p4yNDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1" rel="nofollow">"Parecon"</a> model. What do you think of that?<br /><br />(It's interesting that, although he's an anarchist, Albert sees some similiarities to Parecon in the social projects being put in place by the current government of Venezuela.)Doloras LaPichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406903235156602127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-61105961236512947792009-09-07T07:43:35.377+12:002009-09-07T07:43:35.377+12:00I still don't know what you would replace capi...I still don't know what you would replace capitalism with. What is the plan and structure you wish to sell the people whom you need for revolutionary action?<br />I'm all against property, but I do like eating and my water clean. So no advanced use of techonoly to make eveyones Life more comfie? And why not?83https://www.blogger.com/profile/11641409575712301037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-64380785803159267372009-09-06T08:48:37.439+12:002009-09-06T08:48:37.439+12:00Firstly, like this guy, I think the Zeitgeist movi...Firstly, like <a href="http://meanwhileatthebar.org/blog/?p=204" rel="nofollow">this guy</a>, I think the <em>Zeitgeist</em> movies are a huge scam - an ersatz substitute for real revolutionary ideas which aim young radicals at precisely the wrong targets, i.e. shadowy "conspiracies" and "money power", when all that crap is secondary to the very capitalist system of exploitation which is right in front of everyone's eyes all the time. So screw this technocracy "Venus Project" bullshit.<br /><br />But we are in favour of the complete annihilation of the system of wage labour and commodity production, which goes far, far deeper than the monetary system.Doloras LaPichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406903235156602127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-77520548624151290782009-09-06T06:07:39.022+12:002009-09-06T06:07:39.022+12:00Very nice. Just woundering are you in agreement wi...Very nice. Just woundering are you in agreement with the complete anihalation ofthe monetary system? To be replaced with something similar to thevenus project?83https://www.blogger.com/profile/11641409575712301037noreply@blogger.com