tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post4151376931593733902..comments2023-04-23T12:45:31.897+12:00Comments on Chaos Marxism: The Enemy Is LifestylismDoloras LaPichohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15406903235156602127noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-54235024292012981652010-08-18T11:29:37.848+12:002010-08-18T11:29:37.848+12:00Maybe the only way to create somethin better is do...Maybe the only way to create somethin better is doing it from scratch. Not necessarily primitivism, but maybe all those illusory lifestyles are pregnant with some unknown that we won´t be able to name until all this virtual frustration explodes (and I hope that happens before an actual bomb, which would be a much more sad way to re-do from scratch, if possible). <br />I don´t believe we can name the next cycle with our thought patterns. If it´s all about reality, ideology and job benefits can keep people docile. Because that´s the only reality possible to most people. The ones who chose to live out of this misery find their freedom in wandering the streets drunk and sleeping on the sidewalks (and this is in the real world, not in the USA) The ones who sacrifice, well, they end up dead. If the impossible is thought possible, thoguh, then the "problems" start. <br /><br />The way I see, a revolution is not a safe party, but an orgy of violence and ecstasy. I think it will inevitably hurt. But it has got to hurt less then the safety of real world. Then something better might flowrish.<br />It is not predictable, so all we can do is push this madness to it´s point of no return where there will be people thinking they are fairies and jumping out their windows. <br />I feel sad by this, but I don´t think there´s any hope of safety.<br />Is there something strong enough to make people risk their safety? What about the possibility that it might not go well, and that we actually made it worse with our efforts? And then death. <br /><br />If all we now about life is that we are born to work breed and die, where can new values be born?<br /><br />I can´t see beyond. Is a smooth transition possible? Is it possible for us to imagine what´s beyond? I mean, who can tell what values will make it possible for us to live a more responsible and fulfilling life?Wuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05880177793252810499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-54579484768768847812010-08-17T09:19:36.537+12:002010-08-17T09:19:36.537+12:00"If power is given, not taken, by changing pe..."If power is given, not taken, by changing people´s values to hocus-pocus maybe it could rust the practical reality."<br /><br />I think that what you're getting at is that deliberately encouraging denial, narcissism and an unhealthy fantasy lifestyle, the corporate egregore is sawing away at its own foundations. This is absolutely correct. But: if people are that screwed up, how will they be able to create something better? Will it be back to the Stone Age, or the Middle Ages? Or can we do something better, next cycle?Doloras LaPichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406903235156602127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-82608551637574086702010-08-17T03:08:01.739+12:002010-08-17T03:08:01.739+12:00If the impractical realities are strong enough, th...If the impractical realities are strong enough, the frustration of not being able to turn that into a material reality could work to push people into practical reality? Or do you believe the only way if it get´s strong enough is madness?<br /><br />If power is given, not taken, by changing people´s values to hocus-pocus maybe it could rust the practical reality.<br /><br />I think the corporate egregore is building the it´s own ruin.Wuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05880177793252810499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-43139495260656153082007-03-12T19:30:00.000+13:002007-03-12T19:30:00.000+13:00I've been stewing on this one for a while, Dolores...I've been stewing on this one for a while, Dolores. I agree with the above poster that you make an excellent point, tying this into political lifestylism. I submit to you it is not hiding, my friend, because in order to hide they would need to know about something they should be hiding from. Hardly anyone knows any real revolutionary analysis of the past and present. Much like how BISKIT teams in America's military prisons and the CIA before them discovered that the best form of torture is one that forces the prisoner to be the active agent of the pain being inflicted upon her/himself. Rather than having a big goon doing it, you see. Rather than enslave us literally, Capitalism sees fit to put us in wage slavery, making us trample over eachother scrambling and begging to get a job and serve them. In both cases, the external oppression is only indirectly involved in the suffering the victim is forced to inflict upon her/himself. No, they see nothing to hide from, because they will likely never understand that it is the truth which is so repulsive and unacceptable to them. No, they just laugh it off as ridiculous, and go on living in the reality-tunnel which facilitates best their emotional, social, and (personally) political <B>needs</B>. <BR/><BR/>And who the hell can blame them? It's the bourgois that is responsible for the cruel machinations of the system, not the slaves at the end of chain of command. They are simply rats looking for the cheese. Other than patronizing local business rather than corporate or chain business, at the end of the day my (immediate) economic best interest wins over my genuflections to the loquacious left. And the same with the ordinary proletariat, as well as most of working America. It is indeed a luxury to live as more than an animal or beast in any capacity, a luxury largely of circumstance. To use RAW's or Leary's circuit model with you on this, it seems you are giving a 2nd circuit question a 3rd circuit answer. Or, to get even obnoxious, it is not the jackass libertarians/liberals/centrists who are the problem, but the society which creates them. If the left were able to open a conduit somehow through which power which had been withdrawn from the people were returned, then, then, then, my friend, would thier mouth be open to swallow our shit, our school, our historical materialist analysis, and our revolutionary agenda.skiesel93https://www.blogger.com/profile/11624729731808810934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35011209.post-56263948146876305892007-03-01T08:26:00.000+13:002007-03-01T08:26:00.000+13:00just a GREAT rant!gotta link to this baby asap :)just a GREAT rant!<BR/><BR/>gotta link to this baby asap :)Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13466422798236611184noreply@blogger.com